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Abs-Cbn Shutdown Pabor ka ba O Hindi? Bakit? Need lang para sa debate
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Isama mo na rin sa delusyon mo na si Marcos ang pinakamatalinong tao sa buong mundo na may IQ na 500 para sagad sagaran na kahibangan mo. Sabihin mo na rin na may kapangyarihan si Marcos. Nagreincarnate pagkatapos mamatay. Gagawa ka rin ng irrational na kwento, lubos lubusin mo na.
paki latag nga po yang mga sinasabi mo na libo libong npa baka masupal pal ka sa sinabi ng isang npa leader nun na ngbalik loob sa marcos admin na walang libo sila na bilang na npa kht sa natoture dumami lang sila nung sinabi ng mga aquino na my makukuha daw sila kuno na pera kabayaran sa pagpapahirap kuno ng mga marcos ngunit pag ipakwento mo na ang nangyari panu sila hinuli at tinorture aba nga nga kwentong barbero na pala so ang mga sinasabi ng mga matatanda noon na maganda buhay nila sa panahon ni marcos ay kwento lang pala at ang pag utang ni marcos na nakapag pagawa ng daang daang paaralan slex nlex hospital etc ay nakaw pla at kung anu ano pa so ang video ni marcos na nagsasabi na babagsak ang ekonomiya ng pilipinas after 20 years ginawa lng pala yun na kwentong barbero
at yung mga estudyante na galing pa ng ibang bansa like vietnam thailand etc. na nagaral pa ng agri. dito dahil sa kagagawan ng marcos ay kwentong barbero lang pala
at ito siguro ang tama umutang ang cory admin ng ilang billion at nag patayo at nagpagawa ng? ??????? anu nga ba !
ahh baka bulsa ang ginawa
so kung masama at corrupt ang marcos na may napakaraming nagawa
ehh anu pa si aquino na may malaking utang sa world bank na walang nagawa yan ang bayani nyong mga pulpul
at sorryto say sa inyo na mga nilumot na ang utak sa mga paniniwala sa mga kagagawan ng mga yellow tard this is my last reply to all you reply to this comment youre all such a bitch losers uto uto at higit sa lahat asong nakasunod sa pwet ng mga tunay na criminal na yellow tards. bye
350 lang ang mga NPA bago magdeklara ng martial law si Marcos. Dumami sa 20,000 pagkatapos magdeklara ng martial law. Martial law ang dahilan ng pagdami ng NPA.
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Nagdeklara si Marcos ng martial law para wag maalis sa pwesto hindi para mapigilan ang pagdami ng NPA.
Sino ba namang pangulo ang walang masamang motibo ang magdedeklara ng martial law sa huling taon nya sa pagka pangulo?
Last term na nya un. Kung hindi xa nagdeklara ng martial law, hindi na xa ang pangulong nakaupo nung 1973.
Yan ang tinatawag na GANID at SAKIM sa kapangyarihan.
ikaw na ang matalino kami na ang **** dahil hindi kami naniniwala sa mga fake news nyong Marcos apologist
MAKABAYAN_AKO
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BAWAL FAKE NEWS KAYA PLS READ 
Take a look at ABS-CBN's answers to all of Calida's accusations:
ACCUSATION #1: Kapamilya Box Office (KBO) is îllégâl because ABS-CBN offered it as a pay-per-view product without the proper permits from the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC), therefore a violation of its franchise.
ANSWER: It was ABS-CBN Convergence that offered KBO as a value-added-service. Convergence, the comment said, "sought and obtained NTC approvals."
KBO is a pay-per-view movie channel that subscribers pay for every week on top of a one-time fee to buy the ABS-CBN TV Plus Digital Box.
ACCUSATION #2: The NTC ordered ABS-CBN in 2019 to refrain from offering pay-per-view services.
Calida said in his petition that the NTC told ABS-CBN on April 29, 2015, to "refrain from offering any pay television service...until such time that the Commission has come up with appropriate guidelines for the same."
Calida said the NTC reiterated that order on May 14, 2019.
ANSWER: The NTC actually "approved" its pay-per-view service in the said 2019 order, but imposed a condition that its service "shall be subject to such Conditional Access guidelines that the Commission or any other relevant government agency may hereafter issue."
In the comment, ABS-CBN said that the NTC order did not prohibit pay-per-view before the issuance of a guideline, only that it required companies to comply with guidelines if, and when, the government comes up with one.
"Even assuming that there was a violation....the potential penalty would only be a fine not exceeding two hundred pesos per day for every day during which such default or violation continues," said the comment, citing the Public Service Law.
At the Senate, NTC Commissioner Gamaliel Cordoba said that the violation involved was ABS-CBN proceeding with a pay-per-view service even without guidelines.
Senator Ralph Recto said that if there was a violation, penalties should just be imposed on ABS-CBN instead of it being shut down. "I don’t think that this warrants a death penalty or a capital punishment na papatayin natin 'yung kumpanya (that we will kill the company)," said Recto.
ACCUSATION #3: Pay-per-view is in itself îllégâl because franchise holders are not allowed to derive income other than from its ρáíd advertisements.
ANSWER: ABS-CBN cited Justice Secretary Menardo Guevarra's legal opinion issued to NTC upon request in 2018, saying that "we find it clear enough that broadcast companies can engage in Conditional Access (CA) or Conditional Access System (CAS) and, for the same reason, can offer TV pay-per-view services."
"There is nothing in said provisions that would give any impression that 'commercial purposes' are limited only to income derived by TV broadcast companies from ρáíd advertisements," the legal opinion added, as cited by ABS-CBN's comment.
ACCUSATION #4: ABS-CBN skirted franchise rules when it acquired and merged with two companies which had their own franchises, and used those franchises as their own.
Calida said ABS-CBN resorted to corporate layering to avoid the tedious process of applying for a franchise when it aired its content using the franchises of Multi-Media Telephony Inc and Amcara, which ABS-CBN eventually bought.
ANSWER: ABS-CBN said that the Supreme Court made a clear distinction between a sale of a franchise and sale of shares of stock of a corporation possessing such franchise.
"The former is prohibited while the latter is not," the comment said.
ABS-CBN cited the case PLDT vs NTC (G.R No. 8404), which said: "In other words, even if the original stockholders had transferred their shares to another group of shareholders, the franchise granted to the corporation subsists as long as the corporation, as an entity, continues to exist. The franchise is not thereby invalidated by the transfer of the shares."
What ABS-CBN is simply saying is that while transfer of franchise through sale is prohibited, it was not barred from buying shares of stock of a franchise grantee.
Accusation #5: ABS-CBN violated the franchise law of Multi-Media Telephony because Section 15 of such law said "the grantee shall not lease, transfer, grant, the usufruct of, sell nor assign this franchise or the rights and privileges acquired thereunder to any person, firm, company, corporation or other commercial or legal entity, nor merge with any corporation or entity, nor shall the controlling interest in the grantee be transferred..."
Answer: There must be more relaxed rules for Multi-Media Telephony by virtue of Republic Act 7925 or the Public Telecommunications Policy Act enacted on March 17, 1995. Multi-Media Telephony Inc was first granted franchise on February 23, 1995.
Section 23 of RA 7925 says "any advantage, favor, privilege, exemption or immunity granted under existing franchises, or may hereafter be granted, shall ipso facto become part of previously granted telecommunication franchises and shall be accorded immediately and unconditionally to the grantees of such franchises."
On March 30, 1995, Congress granted a company called Maranao Telephone Company a franchise and prohibited it from selling but only within 5 years. ABS-CBN said that because of Section 23 of RA 7925, the advantage given to Maranao must also be given to Multi-Media Telephony.
"Such requirement must be deemed to apply only for a period of 5 years from the effectivity of Multi-Media Telephony's franchise (March 17, 1995), or only until March 17, 2000," their comment said.
ABS-CBN bought into Multi-Media Telephony in 2015.
Accusation #6: ABS-CBN Convergence violated RA 7908, the original franchise law of Multi-Media Telephony, when it didn't publicly offer shares. RA 7908 says that the company must offer at least 30% of its outstanding capital stock within 5 years of starting its operations, in this case within 5 years since 2015.
In 2011, Sapients bought a company called Columbus Technology, which owns 95% of Multi-Media Telephony. In 2015, ABS-CBN Corporation entered into a merger with Sapients. Sapients then became a wholly-owned subsidiary of ABS-CBN Corporation.
Answer: Convergence never qualified to publicly offer its shares. ABS-CBN said that for a company to be allowed to list its shares, it must submit proof of profitable operations, and that it must satisfy a certain financial situation.
ABS-CBN said Convergence had a "capital deficiency of over P6 billion as of the end of 2018."
"Since Convergence cannot comply with the requirements under the Philippine Stock Exchange or PSE's Main and SME Board Listing Rules, it cannot list and offer its shares to the public," said ABS-CBN.
"The law does not require that the impossible be done," said ABS-CBN.
ACCUSATION #7: ABS-CBN's issuance of Philippine Depositary Receipts (PDR) to foreign investors is îllégâl because it effectively cedes control to a foreign entity when the Constitution requires that media companies be 100% Filipino-owned and controlled.
Answer: ABS-CBN cited the Supreme Court case Gamboa vs Teves that said the foreign restriction is only on effective control of the company. Effective control, the Supreme Court said, comes with the grant of power to elect the Board of Directors and the right to full beneficial ownership of the shares.
"PDR holders' rights are not equivalent to the full beneficial ownership rights of the shareholders of ABS-CBN," said the network, listing down all the rights of a shareholder vis-a-vis the very limited benefits of a PDR holder.
For example, a shareholder has the right to vote on certain matters but a PDR holder does not.
Take a look at ABS-CBN's answers to all of Calida's accusations:
ACCUSATION #1: Kapamilya Box Office (KBO) is îllégâl because ABS-CBN offered it as a pay-per-view product without the proper permits from the National Telecommunications Commission (NTC), therefore a violation of its franchise.
ANSWER: It was ABS-CBN Convergence that offered KBO as a value-added-service. Convergence, the comment said, "sought and obtained NTC approvals."
KBO is a pay-per-view movie channel that subscribers pay for every week on top of a one-time fee to buy the ABS-CBN TV Plus Digital Box.
ACCUSATION #2: The NTC ordered ABS-CBN in 2019 to refrain from offering pay-per-view services.
Calida said in his petition that the NTC told ABS-CBN on April 29, 2015, to "refrain from offering any pay television service...until such time that the Commission has come up with appropriate guidelines for the same."
Calida said the NTC reiterated that order on May 14, 2019.
ANSWER: The NTC actually "approved" its pay-per-view service in the said 2019 order, but imposed a condition that its service "shall be subject to such Conditional Access guidelines that the Commission or any other relevant government agency may hereafter issue."
In the comment, ABS-CBN said that the NTC order did not prohibit pay-per-view before the issuance of a guideline, only that it required companies to comply with guidelines if, and when, the government comes up with one.
"Even assuming that there was a violation....the potential penalty would only be a fine not exceeding two hundred pesos per day for every day during which such default or violation continues," said the comment, citing the Public Service Law.
At the Senate, NTC Commissioner Gamaliel Cordoba said that the violation involved was ABS-CBN proceeding with a pay-per-view service even without guidelines.
Senator Ralph Recto said that if there was a violation, penalties should just be imposed on ABS-CBN instead of it being shut down. "I don’t think that this warrants a death penalty or a capital punishment na papatayin natin 'yung kumpanya (that we will kill the company)," said Recto.
ACCUSATION #3: Pay-per-view is in itself îllégâl because franchise holders are not allowed to derive income other than from its ρáíd advertisements.
ANSWER: ABS-CBN cited Justice Secretary Menardo Guevarra's legal opinion issued to NTC upon request in 2018, saying that "we find it clear enough that broadcast companies can engage in Conditional Access (CA) or Conditional Access System (CAS) and, for the same reason, can offer TV pay-per-view services."
"There is nothing in said provisions that would give any impression that 'commercial purposes' are limited only to income derived by TV broadcast companies from ρáíd advertisements," the legal opinion added, as cited by ABS-CBN's comment.
ACCUSATION #4: ABS-CBN skirted franchise rules when it acquired and merged with two companies which had their own franchises, and used those franchises as their own.
Calida said ABS-CBN resorted to corporate layering to avoid the tedious process of applying for a franchise when it aired its content using the franchises of Multi-Media Telephony Inc and Amcara, which ABS-CBN eventually bought.
ANSWER: ABS-CBN said that the Supreme Court made a clear distinction between a sale of a franchise and sale of shares of stock of a corporation possessing such franchise.
"The former is prohibited while the latter is not," the comment said.
ABS-CBN cited the case PLDT vs NTC (G.R No. 8404), which said: "In other words, even if the original stockholders had transferred their shares to another group of shareholders, the franchise granted to the corporation subsists as long as the corporation, as an entity, continues to exist. The franchise is not thereby invalidated by the transfer of the shares."
What ABS-CBN is simply saying is that while transfer of franchise through sale is prohibited, it was not barred from buying shares of stock of a franchise grantee.
Accusation #5: ABS-CBN violated the franchise law of Multi-Media Telephony because Section 15 of such law said "the grantee shall not lease, transfer, grant, the usufruct of, sell nor assign this franchise or the rights and privileges acquired thereunder to any person, firm, company, corporation or other commercial or legal entity, nor merge with any corporation or entity, nor shall the controlling interest in the grantee be transferred..."
Answer: There must be more relaxed rules for Multi-Media Telephony by virtue of Republic Act 7925 or the Public Telecommunications Policy Act enacted on March 17, 1995. Multi-Media Telephony Inc was first granted franchise on February 23, 1995.
Section 23 of RA 7925 says "any advantage, favor, privilege, exemption or immunity granted under existing franchises, or may hereafter be granted, shall ipso facto become part of previously granted telecommunication franchises and shall be accorded immediately and unconditionally to the grantees of such franchises."
On March 30, 1995, Congress granted a company called Maranao Telephone Company a franchise and prohibited it from selling but only within 5 years. ABS-CBN said that because of Section 23 of RA 7925, the advantage given to Maranao must also be given to Multi-Media Telephony.
"Such requirement must be deemed to apply only for a period of 5 years from the effectivity of Multi-Media Telephony's franchise (March 17, 1995), or only until March 17, 2000," their comment said.
ABS-CBN bought into Multi-Media Telephony in 2015.
Accusation #6: ABS-CBN Convergence violated RA 7908, the original franchise law of Multi-Media Telephony, when it didn't publicly offer shares. RA 7908 says that the company must offer at least 30% of its outstanding capital stock within 5 years of starting its operations, in this case within 5 years since 2015.
In 2011, Sapients bought a company called Columbus Technology, which owns 95% of Multi-Media Telephony. In 2015, ABS-CBN Corporation entered into a merger with Sapients. Sapients then became a wholly-owned subsidiary of ABS-CBN Corporation.
Answer: Convergence never qualified to publicly offer its shares. ABS-CBN said that for a company to be allowed to list its shares, it must submit proof of profitable operations, and that it must satisfy a certain financial situation.
ABS-CBN said Convergence had a "capital deficiency of over P6 billion as of the end of 2018."
"Since Convergence cannot comply with the requirements under the Philippine Stock Exchange or PSE's Main and SME Board Listing Rules, it cannot list and offer its shares to the public," said ABS-CBN.
"The law does not require that the impossible be done," said ABS-CBN.
ACCUSATION #7: ABS-CBN's issuance of Philippine Depositary Receipts (PDR) to foreign investors is îllégâl because it effectively cedes control to a foreign entity when the Constitution requires that media companies be 100% Filipino-owned and controlled.
Answer: ABS-CBN cited the Supreme Court case Gamboa vs Teves that said the foreign restriction is only on effective control of the company. Effective control, the Supreme Court said, comes with the grant of power to elect the Board of Directors and the right to full beneficial ownership of the shares.
"PDR holders' rights are not equivalent to the full beneficial ownership rights of the shareholders of ABS-CBN," said the network, listing down all the rights of a shareholder vis-a-vis the very limited benefits of a PDR holder.
For example, a shareholder has the right to vote on certain matters but a PDR holder does not.
They were being biased prior to the elections.
BangonPinasKo
Journeyman
Huwag nyo idamay ang ABS CBN sa mga kabulastogan ng mga idol nyong DDS
kapaybe2017
Journeyman
napaka simple ng sagot..kung hindi ka namomolitika bakit mo isasara ang isang kompanya na malaki ang naitutulong sa ekonomiya ng bansa.
uploader74
Forum Veteran
Favor 95% ng Filipino na ma-Shutdown ang ABS.
That Channel is DILAWAN and anti-Duterte.
That Channel is DILAWAN and anti-Duterte.
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Naging lason na sila sa ating lipunan.
Ginagawa lang nilang **** ang mga Pilipino sa mga pabalik-balik na palabas na mababa ang kalidad at mababaw na mga storya. Hindi na nakakapagisip ng malalim ang pangkaraniwang Pilipino dahil sa mga palabas na ito.
Bumaba rin ang pagtingin ng mga Pilipino sa kanilang sarili mula nang ginawa lamang silang katatawanan sa telebisyon. Sila rin ang nagpauso sa pagtaguyod ng mga half na artista kaya ba't kulang na ng mga huwarang purong Pilipino na sana'y nagbibigay ng pagasa sa karinawang Pilipino na mas pabutihin ang kanilang mga sarili.
Takbohan rin sila ng mga politiko tuwing eleksyon. Sila na ang humuhugis sa damdamin ng masa kaya kung gusto nilang panaluhin ang walang karanasang mamuno ay nagawa na nila. Halimbawa na diyan ay si Cory at Noynoy.
Ginagawa lang nilang **** ang mga Pilipino sa mga pabalik-balik na palabas na mababa ang kalidad at mababaw na mga storya. Hindi na nakakapagisip ng malalim ang pangkaraniwang Pilipino dahil sa mga palabas na ito.
Bumaba rin ang pagtingin ng mga Pilipino sa kanilang sarili mula nang ginawa lamang silang katatawanan sa telebisyon. Sila rin ang nagpauso sa pagtaguyod ng mga half na artista kaya ba't kulang na ng mga huwarang purong Pilipino na sana'y nagbibigay ng pagasa sa karinawang Pilipino na mas pabutihin ang kanilang mga sarili.
Takbohan rin sila ng mga politiko tuwing eleksyon. Sila na ang humuhugis sa damdamin ng masa kaya kung gusto nilang panaluhin ang walang karanasang mamuno ay nagawa na nila. Halimbawa na diyan ay si Cory at Noynoy.
Funyarinpa
Forum Guru
as if naman 'malalim' yung sa gma... 
kung sa lahi naman... bat may problema ka sa half? racist ka ba? at kahit half yan kung wala namang talent e di rin yun tataas... kaya sila nandyan ibig sabihin may talent yan... di dahil lang sa lahi nila...
kung sa lahi naman... bat may problema ka sa half? racist ka ba? at kahit half yan kung wala namang talent e di rin yun tataas... kaya sila nandyan ibig sabihin may talent yan... di dahil lang sa lahi nila...
lumang issue na ito wag na buhayin. ako nga 20 yrs na empleyado ng abs-cbn pabor sa closure nila.
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